Mud Creek


07/20/2019 – LI-DOG Barkin’ Beach Meetup

 

CJ with Frisbee at Mud Creek

Photo Credit: Heath Meschkow

LI-DOG Barkin’ Beach Cleanup and Doggie Meetup!
Sunday, Aug. 4th, 10 AM to 12 PM
Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach
450 Roe Ave.,  E. Patchogue, NY

(Google Map)

Does your dog like to swim? Does your dog like to socialize? Would you like to spend a morning with your pup, other dog owners and the great folks of LI-DOG for some OFF-LEASH summer fun?

Then please join us for the LI-DOG Barkin’ Beach Cleanup and Doggie Meetup at Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach in East Patchogue on Sunday, Aug. 4th for a couple of hours of letting our furry friends frolic in the sand and surf of the Great South Bay! There’ll be plenty of exercise to be had running along the coastline or in the water as Mud Creek is an off-leash dog beach. (Please note this is a change of date due to predicted excessive heat on the original date of July 20th.) 

A clean-up of the Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach will start at 8:30 a.m., so if you and your fur baby would like to help LI-DOG and get a little extra time in the sun, please join us in getting the area ready for our meetup!

Mud Creek has no amenities and is considered “carry-in, carry-out” (i.e. no trash receptacles, no poop bag stations, no bathrooms and no water fountains). BUT, thanks to Kim Varvaro of Husse Pet Food and James Hoke of PoopAway, we will have PLENTY of water on hand for both people and pets! Also, don’t forget to bring towels and a beach chair if you plan to stay awhile.

PLEASE BE AWARE:  Mud Creek is a natural borders dog park, which means it is not fenced on most sides. For everyone’s safety, please only bring dogs that are well-socialized—used to playing with other dogs off-leash—and that will reliably come when called. Please: No retractable leashes.

Parking is on the street.

ALSO NOTE: A chain-link fence was installed last year to create a “dog-exclusion” area. Please be respectful and keep off-leash dogs out of this area.

RSVP
LI-DOG on Meetup
LI-DOG on Facebook
or email lidog_news@yahoo.com

In the event of inclement weather, please check Meetup or our Facebook group as we will post any weather-related changes by 9 AM that morning. If there are no messages, the event is on!

We hope to see you and your dogs on Sunday, Aug. 4th at the beach!


.07/24/2018 – Dog Exclusion Zone at Mud Creek Unworkable

 

Line of Fencing at Mud CreekDog Exclusion Zone Created at Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach! 

 


LI-DOG Calls for Restoration of Off-Leash Beach, Saying Zone is Unsafe, Unworkable and Unfair

On May 1, 2018, a long line of fencing was installed at Mud Creek Park to create a dog exclusion zone on Suffolk County’s ONLY official off-leash beach. The fencing cost $13,000 and cuts off half the shorefront to dog owners and their dogs. LI-DOG has called on the Suffolk County Legislator responsible for creating the dog exclusion zone to restore the off-leash beach. The zone is unsafe, unworkable and unfair, LI-DOG argues. To get details on the situation and what you can do to help restore the beach, go to Dog Exclusion Zone at Mud Creek. 


07/20/2018 – Dog Exclusion Zone at Mud Creek Unworkable

 

Line of Fencing at Mud Creek

Fencing at Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach

Dog Exclusion Zone Created at Mud Creek–Suffolk’s ONLY Off-Leash Beach!

LI-DOG Asks Suffolk Legislator to Restore the Beach: Dog Exclusion Zone is Unsafe, Unworkable and Unfair

On May 1, 2018, 530 feet of fencing was installed to create a dog exclusion zone at Mud Creek County Park in E. Patchogue—the ONLY official off-leash beach on Long Island! The fencing, which cost $13,000 and cuts the beachfront in half, is the work of Suffolk County Legislator Rob Calarco (D-Patchogue). Leg. Calarco represents the 7th District, which covers Patchogue, Medford and Middle Island among other communities.

In an email to constituents, Leg. Calarco wrote the fencing was installed “to meet the needs of community members who are not dog people…and no longer felt comfortable using this area.”  While Leg. Calarco said he understands “this compromise may not be perfect,” he added, “it’s the best solution for all interested parties.”

LI-DOG argues the dog exclusion zone is not a “compromise” as LI-DOG and other dog owners were never notified or asked to provide any input on the project. “To take away so much of this singular resource without consulting dog owners is undemocratic and unfair,” said LI-DOG President Ginny Munger Kahn.” It would be like creating a playground for kids then suddenly taking away half of it to make a basketball court for adults. Dog owners are upset.”

Three Dogs in Water at Mud Creek Beacvh

Dogs Playing at Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach

On June 6th, LI-DOG was invited to sit down with Leg. Calarco to discuss the situation and potential solutions. At that meeting, LI-DOG urged the Legislator to do away with the dog exclusion zone and restore the beach to its original purpose. The off-leash beach at Mud Creek was designated a natural borders dog park in August 2009 as a result of the Five New Dog Parks bill passed unanimously by the Suffolk County Legislature in May 2007.

In addition to dividing the beachfront in half, the dog exclusion zone creates a new entry point for dog owners that is further north on Roe Avenue. The new entrance requires dog owners and their dogs to traverse all 530 feet of fence line and sand before being able to access the waterfront. The Mud Creek site formerly was used by the Town of Brookhaven to dump recycled glass and other debris. Broken glass has often been found in this large stretch of sand.

Satellite View of Mud Creek with Dog Exclusion Zone

Suffolk Parks Commissioner Phil Berdolt added that the County intends to install snow fencing between the chain link fence and the water. Right now, because of legal restrictions, the chain link fence stops short of the water thereby leaving an open beach front with no natural barriers to running and swimming dogs. (Please note: On Aug. 4th, LI-DOG and local dog owners were told the Parks Dept. has decided NOT to install snow fencing in response to LI-DOG’s requests.)

In asking for the restoration of the beach to its original purpose, LI-DOG argued the current situation is unsafe, unworkable and unfair.

– It is unsafe to make people walk across 530 feet of glass-strewn sand in sandals.

– It is unsafe to make pets walk across the sand as glass can cut their paws and the sands gets very hot and will burn their paws.

– Installing snow fencing between the chain link fence and the water will create a dangerous situation as dogs will still be able to swim around the fence or dig under the fence into the soft sand thereby separating dogs from their owners with no quick way for owners to help their pets.

– The situation is unworkable. Neither the dog exclusion zone nor the off-leash area can be secured without creating a dangerous situation. Yet, on one side you have people who are “uncomfortable around dogs” and on the other side you have off-leash dogs who can’t distinguish the off-leash beach from the exclusion zone.

– The situation is unfair to Suffolk County residents. It takes a beach accessible to all Suffolk County residents and closes half of it for use by people who live nearby, thereby creating a “private” beach for a few local residents. Mud Creek belongs to all County residents, not just those who can afford to live a short walk away!

– The situation is unfair as it exposes dog owners to steep fines as high as $200 if people complain about dog owners letting their dogs do what the beach was designed for—swim and run off-leash—and Park Rangers are sent to enforce the dog-exclusion zone.

– The dog exclusion zone was created in an unfair and undemocratic fashion with no public notice, no public hearings and no input from the people who use the park on this major change in its use.

– The dog exclusion zone is a waste of taxpayer money. The county spent $13,000 installing 530 feet of fencing that fails to serve its purpose–allow local residents to walk the beach without coming into contact with off-leash dogs. The zone is too small for walking, it is covered by poison ivy and water at high tide, and it cannot be secured without creating a dangerous situation, noted Janie Dill, a local dog owner who frequents the beach and has written a letter about this issue to Suffolk County Legislator William Lindsay III. Leg. Lindsay represents the 8th District in Islip and serves as Vice Chair of the Legislature’s Parks Committee.

The depth of feeling among dog owners about how unworkable and unfair this is is evident in the more than 340 signatures—the biggest component comes from Leg. Calarco’s 7th District—that LI-DOG has gathered on its petition asking for the restoration of the beach. Get the petition to Preserve Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach now!

It’s important people understand before the creation of the dog exclusion zone everyone, including nearby residents, had access to the beach, noted Bill Gillis who wrote LI-DOG’s follow up letter to Leg. Calarco after the meeting. Indeed,” we have seen local residents who come to fish, walk and enjoy the beach, most of whom enjoy seeing the dogs playing,” he noted. Creating the dog exclusion zone has now actually taken away access for a large number of Suffolk County residents who treasure Mud Creek as their only off-leash dog beach.

In response to LI-DOG’s arguments, Leg. Calarco asked that we give the dog exclusion zone “a season…to see if it can work.” If there are complaints, he said, he will “rethink it.” When LI-DOG raised concerns that the longer the dog exclusion zone stays in effect, the more likely conflicts will arise between people in the zone and everyone else, Leg. Calarco vowed he would not seek to eliminate the off-leash beach.

In the meantime, LI-DOG has made two recommendations:

– That the snow fencing NOT be installed in order to avoid creating a dangerous situation in which people are separated from their pets. (Thanks to Leg. Calarco and Suffolk Parks for responding to our serious concerns about the snow fencing. )

– That people be allowed to walk their dogs on-leash through the dog exclusion zone to access the water, thereby avoiding the glass-strewn sand.

What You Can Do:

It’s very important that dog owners let Leg. Calarco know the current situation is unworkable and unfair. Let the Legislator know the benefit of listening to the concerns of hundreds of Suffolk County residents who own dogs and want the beach restored to its original purpose. Let Leg. Calarco know this is a critical issue for dog owners and that support for dog-friendly policies is a key consideration in your support for elected officials.

Please urge Leg. Calarco to work with LI-DOG and local dog owners to come to a solution that:

– Preserves the County’s intent to dedicate an off-leash beach for dog owners and their pups at Mud Creek as a result of legislation passed in 2007.

– That meets the needs of dog owners for a safe place to let their dogs run and swim off-leash without fear of conflicts with other park users and summonses and fines.

Contact Leg. Calarco:

By phone at 631-854-1400 (Calls are the easiest, but most powerful way to send a message). Please be polite.

By Email at Robert.Calarco@suffolkcountyny.gov. Don’t forget to forward a copy of your email to LI-DOG at news@lidog.org so we can see how we’re doing with our campaign.

By Letter at Suffolk County Legislator Robert Calarco, 90 W. Main St., Suite 2N, Patchogue, NY 11772

If you’re a resident of Leg. Calarco’s District 7 make sure Leg. Calarco knows that! If you’re a Suffolk County resident, remind Leg. Calarco Mud Creek is for ALL County residents.

Want to increase your impact?

Download the petition and help LI-DOG get signatures to Protect Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach  Mail back petitions with signatures to:

LI-DOG
P.O. Box 1171
Huntington, NY 11743

Then, help spread the word by getting the Flyer Dog Exclusion Zone Created at Mud Creek.

The more support we can show for restoring the off-leash beach, the more likely we’ll get a solution that meets the needs of dog owners!

Thank you for your support!


05/07/2018 – Dog Exclusion Zone at Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach

 

East West Fence Line; Photo Credit Alphonse Guardino

Dog-Exclusion Zone Created at Mud Creek–Long Island’s ONLY Official Off-Leash Beach

A long line of fencing that creates a dog-exclusion zone has gone up at Mud Creek County Park–Long Island’s ONLY official off-leash beach–in E. Patchogue. The fencing, which appeared on May 1st and runs approximately 530 feet, cuts the beachfront available to dog owners and their pups in half.

Mud Creek’s off-leash beach was created for dog owners in August 2009 as a result of the Five New Dog Parks bill passed unanimously by the Suffolk County Legislature in May 2007 and in response to Suffolk residents’ requests for safe places to exercise and socialize their dogs. At this time, Mud Creek is the only official Suffolk County off-leash beach. “To take away so much of this singular resource for dog owners and their pups without even consulting us is not fair,” said Ginny Munger Kahn, president of LI-DOG. “It would be like creating a soccer field for kids and then suddenly taking half away for adult recreation. Dog owners are upset,” she noted.

Satellite View of Mud Creek with Dog-Exclusion Zone; Photo Credit Alphonse Guardino

What You Can Do: Let local elected officials and Parks Dept. officials know what you think about creating a dog-exclusion zone on the ONLY off-leash beach on Long Island. (See contact information below.) To spread the word and increase our impact: Download the Mud Creek Petition and Mud Creek Petition Signature Form, sign the form, and share it with your dog-loving family and friends.

The fencing is the work of the Suffolk County Parks Dept. and Suffolk County Legislator Rob Calarco (D-Patchogue), who represents District 7, which covers Patchogue, Medford and Middle Island among other communities. In an email to a local dog owner who asked what was behind the new fencing, Leg. Calarco responded: “This was done as a way to meet the needs of some of the community members who are not dog people…and who no longer felt comfortable using this area. The fenced area is intended to give those local residents an area at the park they can utilize apart from the dog park.”

“Dog owners are willing to share park resources,” said LI-DOG’s President, “but this is the ONLY official off-leash beach in all of Suffolk County. By contrast, local residents who do not wish to come into contact with dogs have multiple, beautiful beaches available to them nearby and throughout Long Island,” she noted.

Leg. Calarco also discussed alleged complaints from neighbors about loose dogs leaving the park in an April 2016 Suffolk Legislature meeting. In a March 2016 Long Island Advance article, neighbors suggested a fence to close off the dog park from the road. However, the new fence does not prevent dogs from leaving the park, but instead cuts across the first half of the beach to create a dog-exclusion zone.

In addition to dividing the beachfront in half, the new dog-exclusion zone creates a new entry point for dog owners. The new gated entry is further north on Roe Ave and requires dog owners and their dogs to traverse all 530 feet of fence line and sand before being able to access the waterfront. Not only does the sand get quite hot during the summer, which is tough on animals’ paws, but broken glass has often been found in this large stretch of sand, thereby putting dog owners and their dogs at increased risk of injury.

The fencing poses additional risks and raises additional safety and enforcement issues. The fencing currently stops well short of the water, leaving an open beach with no obvious barrier to prevent dogs from entering the dog-exclusion zone. “How is my dog supposed to know where this invisible line in the sand is?” asked Bill Gillis, a local dog owner who frequents Mud Creek on a regular basis and wrote the Mud Creek petition. “Are we dog owners going to be ticketed and fined for letting our dogs do what this park was designed for—allowing our pups to run and swim off-leash?”

It would also be a bad idea to extend the fence line into the water. If a dog swam around or dug under the loose sand under the fence, dog owners would not be able to quickly rescue their pets raising the potential for serious harm to their dog.

Since 2009, local dog owners have worked voluntarily to clean up and maintain the beach at Mud Creek. The site formerly was used by the Town of Brookhaven to dump recycling and dredge waste. This waste material–glass and other trash–is regularly uncovered by wind and water action. Dog owners including LI-DOG have worked diligently over the years to organize clean ups and clean up the beach themselves. “Here we’ve done all these cleanups and now that the beach is nice, the results of our work have been taken away and turned over to those who were not involved in the beach’s transformation,” said Janie Dill, another dog owner who frequents Mud Creek. “We need a solution that takes into consideration dog owners’ care and concern for this park,” she said.

It’s time for dog owners to stand up and protect the off-leash beach at Mud Creek. Please call, email or write Leg. Calarco and let him know what you think about creating a dog-exclusion zone on the ONLY off-leash beach on Long Island. Ask Leg. Calarco to work with LI-DOG and local dog owners to come to solution that preserves the off-leash beach the County created at Mud Creek Park and that meets the needs of Suffolk dog owners for a safe, comfortable, and practical off-leash area.

Contact Information for Leg. Calarco:
Call: 631-854-1400
Email: Robert.Calarco@suffolkcountyny.gov
Write: Suffolk County Leg. Robert Calarco, 90 W. Main St., Suite 2N, Patchogue, NY 11772

Don’t forget to include your address, especially if you’re a resident of District 7, which includes Patchogue, Medford and Middle Island, or are a resident of Suffolk County. This is a beach for ALL Suffolk residents after all.

Remember: Calls are the easiest, but most powerful way to send a message! Please always be polite.

Contact Information for Suffolk Parks Dept:
Call: 631-854-4949
Email: scparks@suffolkcountyny.gov
Write: Suffolk Parks Dept., P.O. Box 144, W. Sayville, NY 11796

Want to Spread the Word and Boost Your Impact? Download the Mud Creek Petition and Mud Creek Petition Signature Form, sign the form and pass it around to your dog-loving friends and family. Once you’ve got a few pages of signatures, either meet us at a dog-friendly venue in Patchogue (we’ll set up times to gather petitions) or send the completed forms to:

LI-DOG
P.O. Box 1171
Huntington, NY 11743

Want to volunteer to help us gather signatures in District 7 specifically? Email us at news@lidog.org and we’ll put you in touch with our organization team!

To keep up-to-date on what’s happening at Mud Creek, check back here or the Mud Creek Dog Park Facebook Group.

Thank you for your help and support for the Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach!


08/26/2017 – LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup II

 

 

Chloe Running on Beach at Mud Creek

Chloe Enjoying Our Meetup in July! Photo Credit: Kathy Goldstein

LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup II

Sat., Aug. 26th, 10AM – Noon

Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach

341 Roe Ave., Patchogue, NY (Google Map)

In response to requests by several dog owners–and their pups!–we will hold another Beach Meetup at Mud Creek County Park on Sat., Aug. 26th from 10 a.m. until Noon!

Spend some time at the beach with Fido and the great folks of LI-DOG for some summer fun. Join us at Mud Creek Dog Park in East Patchogue for a couple of hours letting our furry friends frolic in the sand and surf of the Great South Bay! There’ll be plenty of exercise to be had running along the coastline as Mud Creek is an off-leash dog beach. Complimentary snacks and water will be provided for humans and dogs. Bring your own towel and beach chairs!

A clean-up of the Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach will start at 8:30 a.m., so if you and your fur baby would like a little extra time in the sun, please join us in getting the area ready for our event.

Please note: Mud Creek is a natural borders dog park, which means it is not fenced. For everyone’s safety, please only bring dogs that are well-socialized—used to playing with other dogs off-leash—and that will reliably come when called. Please NO RETRACTABLE LEASHES.

Mud Creek has no amenities and is considered “carry-in, carry-out” (i.e. no trash receptacles, no poop bag stations, no bathrooms and no water fountains). LI-DOG will have extra water and poop bags on hand, but please help us make the event a success by remembering to bring these items.

Parking is on the street and there is a narrow path to the water.

We hope to see you and your dogs on Saturday, August 26th at the beach!

THERE IS NO RAINDATE FOR THIS EVENT!

RSVP

LI-DOG on Meetup

LI-DOG on Facebook

or email lidog_news@yahoo.com

We hope to see you and your dog at the beach on Sat., Aug. 26th!

 

 


.07/15/2017 – LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup at Mud Creek Dog Beach

 


LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup
Sat., July 15th, 10AM – 12PM
Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach
E. Patchogue, NY

Spend time with Fido and the great folks of LI-DOG for some summer fun at LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup at Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach! They’ll be plenty of opportunities for your dog to swim and run with other dogs as Mud Creek is an official off-leash beach located on the Great South Bay in E. Patchogue. For all the details, go to LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup.


07/15/2017 – LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup at Mud Creek Dog Beach


 

LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup 

Sat., July 15th, 10AM – 12PM (Rain date Sun., July 16th)

Mud Creek County Park
450 Roe Ave., E. Patchogue, NY (Google Map)

 

Spend some time at the beach with Fido and the great folks of LI-DOG for some summer fun at LI-DOG’s Barkin’ Beach Meetup at the Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach!  Join us at Mud Creek in East Patchogue for a couple of hours letting our furry friends frolic in the sand and surf of the Great South Bay! There’ll be plenty of exercise to be had running along the coastline as Mud Creek is an off-leash dog beach. Complimentary bagels will be provided and we will have water for humans and dogs throughout the event. Bring your own towel and beach chairs!

A clean-up of the Mud Creek Off-Leash Beach will start at 8:30 a.m., so if you and your fur baby would like a little extra time in the sun, please join us in getting the area ready for our event.

Please note: Mud Creek is a natural borders dog park, which means it is not fenced. For everyone’s safety, please only bring dogs that are well-socialized—used to playing with other dogs off-leash—and that will reliably come when called. Please– NO RETRACTABLE LEASHES.

Mud Creek has no amenities and is considered “carry-in, carry-out” (i.e. no trash receptacles, no poop bag stations, no bathrooms and no water fountains). LI-DOG will have extra water and poop bags on hand, but please help us make the event a success by remembering to bring these items.

Parking is on the street and there is a narrow path to the water.

RSVP
LI-DOG on Meetup
LI-DOG on Facebook
or email lidog_news@yahoo.com

We hope to see you and your dogs on Saturday, July 15th at the beach!

It is with the public’s donations, we are able to offer events like these!